Snarky commenter PB wrote:

I’m sure Vanilla Ice is happy that his hair legacy lives on.

Thanks for the gnarly case of scuffdick, toe.  I need more lotion...

It's a MAN, baby!



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The long dresses and swept-up hairstyles are kind of cute in a retro way, but the unibrows and men’s shoes spoil the look.

fnord wrote:

The long dresses and swept-up hairstyles are kind of cute in a retro way, but the unibrows and men’s shoes spoil the look.

That's what I think. They need a little makeup and plucking, and they could be much cuter. They all have lovely skin.

I feel very sorry for these women. They don't deserve to have their babies taken from them, when all they've ever done was follow directions. That's a pretty low thing to do to a mother - especially when their entire lives revolve around their kids.

And like teenage girls in secular society NEVER get pregnant. In their culture, it's an honor to have babies as soon as they can.

I have a friend who is almost 20, and is a Mormon. She had her baby at 18, and is happy as hell with her life. She's in college, and has the world going for her. She considers having babies the most important thing a woman can do, and because she had her baby when she was supposed to, she is supported in all she wants to do. Like coming over to my house to smoke pot, look at High-Street, and sew up bitchin' clothes when she's supposed to be at school.

I'm not saying it's a way of life that works for everyone, but it works for them. They do care about their families, and it sucks that some prank-calling bitch ruined their lives for her own amusement.

Fled wrote:

Is that hair style mandatory?  It looks a little like Michael J. Fox.  In fact, calendar girl looks a lot like him.  I am tempted to view the story like Sofaking (wii tar) did. 

Still, some communes leave the kids nearly incapable of making it on the outside should they elect to leave.  Also, to indoctrinate the girls to spawn as early as possible is hardly commendable.  Of course, indoctrination abounds everywhere.

I agree with you. They're a few fries short of a Happy Meal. But now that the babies are here, the answer is not separating small children from their mothers. It's not like they're crackhead single mothers who refuse to take care of their kids.

It wasn't some prankster that ruined it for them. The Texas authorities have decided that they have the moral and political imperative to route this cultish religious community. They were likely just itching for the right excuse. It will be interesting to see if they went off haf cocked and without proper intelligence to deal with the large amount of children and dependent women. One thing is for sure they need to apply all kinds of pressure and use whatever initially flimsy circumstantial accounts they have so they can justify their right to search for evidence and compell testomony. Unfortunately the typically coercive methods of law enforcement are going to brutalize those people and families within this community that really didn't do anything wrong except belong to a group unacceptable to our society.

But don't get me wrong here. I acknowledge sofie's points and believe that the children should not be seperated from their mothers, many who did little unlawful, as a tool of coercion in the investigation. But I have great trepidations about the modus operendi of this group. I suspect that it is  corrupt and quite possibly morally bankrupt in some basic human rights, from the top on down. There is something very disturbing about how controlled a life these people are buying into. And at what point are the sheep that are manipulated complicit in the crimes of the fathers?

The issues that groups that live outside societal norms bring up are interesting to me. I grew up adjacent to the Amish, who have many really twisted igenerational corruptions riddled through their ideals . I have also had friends who have started succesful, for a time, counterculture communes. Complete with some sort of draw for young girls and polygamy for its leaders. I also have worked as an assistant with charismatic teachers and mentors who's immersive teaching methods caused some students to move through the psychological steps of fostering and adopting new culture around them. Something they came to realize was an immense responsibility to understand and not abuse.

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George Orr wrote:

When you have a polygamous community, leaving out the issue of "marriages" between men in their 40s, 50s and above to girls twelve and thirteen years old, you get a lot of surplus boy-children who, if not dealt with in some way, will grow up to become rivals for multiple brides.

I don't have time to search for links at the moment, but if anybody's curious, look around for stories on what these shitheads do with their "extra" male children.

Yes the Lost Boys. It was interesting though. On the CNN talking heads last night they had a young man who had left the community. They tried to pigeon hole him as a lost boy, but he didn't quite fit the mold. He claims he wasn't thrown out but was asked to leave when he started doing things more typical of a 19 yo american teen which he himself recognized as incompatible with their way, He claimed that they would welcome him back if he adopted their way of life. He had severe criticisms but also praise for certain mormonish values which he tries to live by.

You often see the outspoken former member Flora Jessop being quoted as she runs a refugge center for FLDS girls. She tells horrendus stories, claims to be recovering from childbride trauma herself and I suspect that there is truth to it. But she has a has a very strong anti FLDS agenda.  And I do not know whether to believe all she says. Although she may be just embellishing to protect privacy as she operates within a secret network within her extended family.

Lurker wrote:

I figured as much...I posted the original story when it first happened.

Turkey, about 20% of your posts are self-revelatory and manifestly pathetic. I don't think you evolved much beyond grade three or four. My experience with damaged personalities leads me to the following conjecture. A statistically significant percentage of homosexual men (such as yourself) were forcibly buggered as little boys. It could have been your priest, your uncle, your father, maybe the older boy next door (or your own mother with a kitchen implement?), but someone porked you at an early age, and, as often happens to traumatized children, the pain engendered a protective personality that froze in place, intellect, affect, sexuality and all, immobile till the day you die. I hope that's the explanation for you, Turkey, because otherwise you're just a stupid twat - a moron without a cause.

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icangetyouatoe wrote:

Oh Wilber, come on. Ask him out already and be done with it.

*shudder*
Toe, you're here more than I am, so good on you if you like him.
Either you have a high tolerance for stupidity, or you enjoy the frisson
of reading incredibly inane postings. Personally, I think stupidity should be
discouraged, but maybe you enjoy sharing your sandbox with incontinent
half-wits. Do bathe when you're done.

They use that hair to wash their husband's feet. Nuff said.