Loudmouth sheboons making ooking noises and having a chimpout like the primitive baboons they are.  Why they didn’t drive around the other side of the circle like the car that drove through in the middle of the film is beyond me.  And only 11 years for killing this man in cold blood, that’s a sick joke.  While nothing could be done to the sheboon whores for instigating this murder, a notation no doubt has already been made in their extensive prior files and hopefully they can expect no mercy the next time they are in front of a judge.

fnord wrote:

And only 11 years for killing this man in cold blood, that’s a sick joke.

Exactly.  The fact that this clearly qualifies as a hate crime should at the very least double if not triple that sentence.

Gotta wonder where the ACLU is on this one.

Scotty wrote:

fnord wrote:

And only 11 years for killing this man in cold blood, that’s a sick joke.

Exactly.  The fact that this clearly qualifies as a hate crime should at the very least double if not triple that sentence.

Gotta wonder where the ACLU is on this one.

Nothing suggests that it was racially motivated.  It's not a hate crime simply because the victim and perpetrator are of a different race.

fnord wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Exactly.  The fact that this clearly qualifies as a hate crime should at the very least double if not triple that sentence.

Gotta wonder where the ACLU is on this one.

Nothing suggests that it was racially motivated.  It's not a hate crime simply because the victim and perpetrator are of a different race.

That’s total bullshit!  The two ho’s screaming at an old White man watering a traffic circle planting, calling a young male friend who hits the White man in the face without saying a word, and you can keep a straight face when saying this wasn’t racially motivated?  I don’t care what the current PC Party Line is; racism isn’t limited to Whites, and since this clearly was a hate crime, as long as hate crime laws are on the books penalty enhancement needs to occur regardless of who is doing the hating.

I've made my stance known here before.  I think all hate crime legislation is stupid because motivation is irrelevant and should not make one crime worse than another. 

With that being said, there is a certain lower social economic element who feels that anyone who dares to hold his or her ground is a threat.  I think the outcome would have been the same had it been a black female who was watering and blocking the traffic circle..accept they would have attacked the women themselves and would not have called for backup.  I don't see any evidence to suggest that they argued with the man just because he is white.  Which is another reason that hate crime legislation is idiotic.  It doesn't matter that the Aryan Nation targets blacks because they are black.  What matters is that the perpetrator should be punished for the crime...not for his thoughts.

I agree that Hate Crime laws, Holocaust Denial laws, and other laws and regulations that punish Thought Crimes are bullshit.  What is especially stupid about them is the underlying PC assumption that only Whites can be racist, therefore it’s rare for a non-White to suffer an enhanced penalty.  The only time a Hate Crime penalty against a negro is even considered is if his victim is Gay.   Note that I called for equal application of these stupid laws as long as they are on the books.

fnord wrote:

Another crime against Whites that wasn’t motivated by racism.

Did I miss something?  Where was the race of the victims and the evidence that it was racially motivated?

The article said he was depressed.   Sometimes a bad act is simply a bad act.

fnord wrote:

It’s Utah!  The odds are overwhelming that any random child someone decides to run over with their car will be White.  Locating a group of non-White children to run over would have to qualify as premeditation. Perhaps he was "depressed" because being in an advanced White region where he was out of place and unwanted finally got to the Turd Worlder.

Exactly.  It's Utah, so it's likely that the kids were white because of the population...not because the guy had a racist agenda!

...and I i know many white people who would be depressed and consider themselves out of place in Utah.

I agree, it's a shame, though, because it's a beautiful state. The rocks and shit.

Video is available at this link:


http://www.kirotv.com/video/19477183/index.html

Yeah, 11 years sounds incredibly harsh for that.  People get into arguments and hit each other all the time.  There was no reason to believe that would end in death.  I'm not saying there shouldn't be a punishment for that, but what do we gain by locking him up for 11 years that we wouldn't gain by locking up anyone who's ever punched anybody up for 11 years?

(not my legal opinion, just my regular one)

tojo2000 wrote:

I can't tell what the deal is from that video.  What was the argument about?

Edit:  Never mind.  He was blocking the intersection, I see.

Clearly justifiable homicide.  And you don't see how murder(arguably cold blooded) warrants an eleven year jail sentence?  What planet do you live on again?

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Scotty wrote:

tojo2000 wrote:

I can't tell what the deal is from that video.  What was the argument about?

Edit:  Never mind.  He was blocking the intersection, I see.

Clearly justifiable homicide.  And you don't see how murder(arguably cold blooded) warrants an eleven year jail sentence?  What planet do you live on again?

Murder is not murder is not murder.  There's a reason why we as a society distinguish between these things. 

As far as I can tell from the video from the comfort of my living room:

* I don't see intent to kill.  It doesn't matter to the dead guy, but we can't bring him back to life anyway.
* If the guy hadn't hit his head on the way down, this would just be assault.

I'm not defending what the guy did, but there's a hell of a difference between that and stabbing someone, or shooting them, or veering at them with a car, or even pummeling them with your fists for an extended period of time.

I say throw his ass in jail, but all I'm saying is that 11 years seems long to me for a case like this.  It's planet Earth, and it's okay if you disagree.  I'm not going to pony up for his defense fund or anything.  You can avoid this sort of thing by not punching strangers in the face.


P.S.  Accidentally hit edit instead of quote for a second there.  Sorry about that.